NANCY HOPKINS IRISH ROOTS

Nancy l hopkins
irish & german roots

in nancy's tree are 2 surnames that also appear in mine: Hopkins and kelly. are we related? if so, how closely?

we will begin with the hopkins line
her parents: philip lynn hopkins & matilda rose vormwald

Okay, So we know that nancy's parents were married in 1947. Since the marriage index doesn't show who their parents were, how do we find out? Knowing that Nancy's parents had both passed away from this physical plane, i did an internet search and found their obituaries which gave me further information that I will not place here. However, on ancestry.com, i found the following: (other family members have been edited out, for privacy reasons)

Now we know that according to information given to the funeral home, Philip's parents were lynn t. hopkins and Alta m. ivory! But, knowing that for various reasons, records are sometimes not correct, i went searching for verification and found a 1930 census record listing philip l hopkins, son of lynn t and alta m & sister janice m.

to find out alta's maiden name, i searched NY marriage records and found that lynn t hopkins married alta m ivory 9 sept, 1924 in moravia, ny!

living In moravia town, cayuga county, ny on april 22, 1930 are lynn t. hopkins, age 28 born in ny,; his wife alta m., age 26, ny; daugter, janice m., 2 yrs 10 mos.; and son philip l., 4 yrs and 7 mos. this census gives us addition information, too. Lynn owns a trucking business, he and alta have been married about 5 years and both of Lynn and alta's parents were also born in New York. Since Lynn is 28 and has been married 5 years, I go searching for a 1920 census record to see if he is still living at home with his parents and find lynn t, son of william w and ada hopkins living in homer, cortland co., NY!

William W. Hopkins
&
Ada Belle Taylor
married
13th February, 1889 Sempronius, Cayuga, NY

Note: I found Ada's middle name on marriage record of her daughter, Maude.

cool! we find that lynn's parents are william w. and ada hopkins and that he has siblings. now let's take a closer and more detailed look at the record!

now that we've enlarged the image a bit, we can see that lynn t, age 18, born ny, is the son of william w. (53 NY) and ada (51 NY) hopkins. lynn has siblings, floyd c (28 NY) and eva s(20 ny), and is an uncle to 7 yr old, leah a hulbert. Both william w and ada's parents were born in ny. william is a farmer.

as you can see, the 1900 census gives us a bit more info than most other census records such as birth months, how long married and how many children the mother has given birth to and how many are still living. oN THE ABOVE us FEDERAL CENSUS RECORD TAKEN 21ST DAY OF jUNE 1900, WE FIND wILLIAM AND ADA HOPKINS AND THEIR CHILDREN, MAUDE, FLOYD, FAY AND EVA. ACCORDING TO WHOMEVER SPOKE WITH THE CENSUS TAKER, WILLIAM WAS BORN IN NOVEMBER OF 1866, IS 33 AND HAS BEEN MARRIED 11 YEARS. ADA IS 32, BORN IN APRIL 1868 AND HAS GIVEN BIRTH TO 4 CHILDREN WITH ALL 4 LIVING. BOTH THEIR PARENTS WERE BORN IN NEW YORK AND WILLIAM IS A CARPENTER. THEIR SON, LYNN T HOPKINS IN NOT YET BORN. THE IMAGE BELOW GIVES US MORE INFO. (note: ages, birthdates and places of birth may not be remembered correctly, if even known. use records as clues.)

https://findagrave.com

whomever created William's findagrave page was kind enough to include his obituary. But, it doesn't say who his parents are. however, we learn that William was born 1866 in Cortlandville, Cortland Co., NY. So, searching for william Hopkins born about 1866 in cortland, ny, we find the following census record for cortlandville, cortland co., ny:

I have not yet been able to find a marriage record for Henry Hopkins and amanda. But, i did find some family trees on ancestry.com which state that william henry hopkins married amanda m. gee around 1858. amanda is said to have died in 1878. But she is not listed among the family in 1875 and there is an infant daughter 4 months of age, also named amanda. The child died shortly after the census was taken. I feel the mother died shortly after giving birth.

I did find a record in the new york death index for a william hopkins. At least, that's what the index of the record says that it says. however, the digital copy is so dark, that i, and apparently most everyone else, cannot make out what is written. I could almost make out the name of William Hopkins but that's about it. note, that i said "almost." Searching further, i find a henry hopkins, age 13, in neighboring Groton, Tomkins co., ny in 1850. he is the son of elijah and rachael hopkins. Elijah is said to have married Rachael Gee. Are rachael and amanda gee related? several hopkins family members married people from the gee family!

As you can see, William's wife, Amanda is not listed. The 1st daughter which was Transcribed as lucretia, is clearly written as laura. perhaps her full name was laureta

Searching for the parents and siblings of Elijah Hopkins born about 1802/03 who married Rachel Gee around 1820/21 and lived in Cortland Co., NY. Rachel was born 9 Jun 1802/03 in Cortland, according to info on findagrave. She died 7 Mar 1891 at 88 yrs of age. Elijah died 1 Mar 1879. Both are buried in Groton Rural Cemetery, Tompkins Co., NY.

This is added to rachel's findagrave page:  Age 89. Widow of Elijah Hopkins b 1785, son of Seth Hopkins and Mary Darling. Elijah and Rachel married 1822 in Virgil, Cortland Co., NY. She was one of a family of 15 children of which only one now survives, Mrs. Martha Ellison of Virgil, NY. Rachel had 11 children of which 3 survive, including Mrs. John Vantine of Groton with whom she lived.

In 1820 there are 4 Hopkins males on the census for Homer, Cortland Co., NY. Three of them are in the age group of at least 45 yrs of age and older. These men are: Sylvanus, Moses and Asa Hopkins. The 4th male is John Hopkins who is somewhere between 26 and 45 yrs of age.

Within the household of Sylvanus Hopkins (45+) is a male between 16 and 26 but older than 18 as there are no males listed between 16-18, 2 females 11-16, 1 female between 16-26, 1 female over 45. 6 people total

The household of Moses Hopkins (45+) contains a male 11-16, male 16-26, 2 females 16-26, female 26-45. 6 people total

The household of Asa Hopkins (45+) contains a male 11-16, a female 16-26 and a female 45+. 4 people total.

The household of John Hopkins (27-45) contains 1 male under 10, 1 male 11-16, 2 males 16-26, 4 females under 10, 1 female 26-45 for a total of 10 people.

Nancy's Elijah Hopkins and Rachel Gee. Elijah is said to be the son of Sylvanus and an unknown wife. Census records show that Elijah was born in Cortland County, NY around 1802/03. Not much is known at this time about Sylvanus Hopkins born about 1760/61 and died 1836/37 probably in Richford, Tioga Co., NY and is buried in Tioga Co., NY...IF the Sylvanus found at findagrave.com is, indeed, Elijah's father.

There are two men named Elijah Hopkins who are said to be sons of Sylvanus Hopkins in and/around Cortland and Tioga Counties in New York. One is said to have been born almost 20 yrs earlier than Elijah b. 1802/03. Both Elijahs are said to have married a Rachel Gee b. 1802. Some records show that the father of Rachel Gee (born 9 Jun 1802/3 in Cortland Co., NY and who died 7 Mar 1891 att 88 yrs of age) to be John B. Gee and Mary Polly Hutchings.

Patrick O'Connor married Mary Ellen Kelly
10 January 1839
Donneraile, County Cork, Ireland